[rox] suggestion for panels - closer view
- From: "Franz Nahrada" <f.nahrada reflex.at>
- Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:20:11 +0200
Dear speakers of the oekonux conference:
Stefan Merten made a suggestion to all of you to increase the effectivity
of the oekonux event by clustering speeches together!
I also feel this is a very good way to get more out of the conference,
and I think that this conference and the meeting of minds it offers
could also lead to leverage in our daily work by seing how many people
are doing similar and related stuff, allowing each of us to more clearly
focus on the core elements of our work.
So my hope is that the possibility suggested is not felt as
a forced idea, but as an opportunity to intensify the dialogue.
But not only you have the choice to reject this..- much more
important is that you have the chance to select a better combination
for yourself. But you should act now and fast.
Now you can also use this opportunity to look up all the other
speakers. You can identify their work and see what would be
a constructive dialogue. You can post this opinion here or directly
adress the speakers involved.
You can leave it all to the wise organisation team (whose
wisdom is limited in many ways) or you can add a little bit
of wisdom by doing this step yourself. The choice is yours.
I added some personal comments and questions to Stefans suggestions below.
Stefan Merten wrote:
As I mentioned some days ago the organizing team thought about some
panels. In the schedule we have planned for six panels (Saturday
10:00-13:00 and 14:00-17:00) which usually should be populated by two
speakers so both have enough time to say what they have to say and
then have a combined discussion.
If three speakers decide to reduce some parts of their speaking time in
favor of common
discussion, this is also an option. In comparison to the little time at
oekonux is very generous with time for speeches and discussions. Rather
less but deeper.
Still this could be an opportunity to work together!
Of course feel free to organize workshops with a closer collaboration
of the organizing contributors. At best do it by this list but at
least tell us the results here.
Which is the same what I just said in other words....
Also if you think you have an idea for another panel please tell it.
The suggestion below combines only people with the same language. I
think a panel should not combine English and German because often
attenders choose on the language and a combination is thus bad for
At least make sure that all can switch to one language.
To see what the people and their topics are please check
Also if you did not do so until now *please* correct your own entries
with the password you received from StefanMz.
when it finally arrives ;-)
Ok, now for the panels. The shortcuts behind the names are our ideas
and are only there to give you a quick idea of what the presentation
is about. The general idea is to group contributors who have a common
Or: two somehow related topics which can form an interesting combination.
Edward Cherlin Simputer
Christof Beaupoil FreeHardware
While Edward will tell us about an already existing and big Free
Hardware project Christof will give us also some overview and a more
theoretical perspective on Free Hardware. People interested in Free
Hardware will probably be interested in such a panel.
There are basically to viewpoints on free hardware:
One ist the technical viewpoint: what can be shared, designs, professional
how to deal with patents and rights, free licenses, how does the process of
collective design work, what is the quality of results etc.
The other one is the viewpoint of society:
which products do we need, how can these products be efficiently produced,
how does the free sphere locate itself in a competive commodity
how do products of the free sphere relate to each other - and finally:
can free products be part of the "bread" we need to eat to expand the free
Ideally we would need to have more panels or workshops on that.
Benni Baerman proposed a "bread" workshop but I do not know
if he even wants to relate to free hardware.
Marcin Jakubovsky has exciting suggestions on the marriage between
Free Hardware and Ecology Movements.
But E.Cherlin has also tendencies to talk about the future development
of village economies based on global co-operation and less about
the hardware itself. Which would make him a better match with
S.Bibin Agravat. I think the speakers should reflect and decide this!
Stefan Merten OHAProject
Christoph Spehr OHANetworks
Stefan and Christoph both will talk about
OrganisationHerrschaftAnarchismus (OHA) - a term coined in the
Oekonux project while discussing power structures as well as
organization in Free Software and other Free Projects. For those
interested in this probably the longest debate in Oekonux will be
interested to listen and contribute to this panel or may be
This is a very perfect topical and personal combination. Finally something
Marion Hamm Indymedia
J. Martin Pedersen FSwIndymedia
Indymedia is the common topic of Marion and J. Martin. Their
approach is also similar in comparing it to Free Software. A panel
made up of those two.
sounds also very logical
Yuwei Lin EMACS
Aputsiaq Janussen HackerEthic
While Yuwei looks at the development of EMACS (a big and old Free
Software project) which is a good example for a result of hacker
culture Aputsiaq based on the work of Pekka Himanen will give us
some insights on some possible hacker ethic. Sounds interesting to
combine these two.
for me, too. And there was allready some talk about it.
Michael Zaiser SelfOrg
Sheen S. Levine Emergence
While Michael will present us some thoughts on some thoughts about
self-organization rooted in the natural sciences Sheen will tell us
about emergence phenomenons found in Free Projects. Both topics seem
similar so a panel is interesting.
Speakers should give it some consideration.
Hans-Gert Graebe ProcessPrep
Stefan Matteikat ThingInternet
Hans-Gert as well as Stefan think about changes in the contemporary
way things are produced. Together they build an interesting panel.
Interesting aspect. I think Hans Gert is talking about the general nature
of production processes while Stefan is referring to the enormous
progresses in logistics.
Here I am just affraid a little "salt" might be missing. We might be very
much impressed with technological possibilities. But the question is are
they suitable for anything else than commodity production? OK, this can be
the subject of the Workshop.
Wolfgang Polatzek TransformEconomy
Thomas Atzert ImmaterialLabor
While Thomas' presentation is inspired by Empire and its view on
labor Wolfgang will present thoughts on alternative economy already
existing and how this can be transformed to another economy when
taking the lessons from Free Software into account. Both
presentations are thus concerned with labor and so make up for a
Could be an interesting combination to bring together content (immaterial
labour) and form of organisation (cooperative economies). I wonder if
Benni did not also want to be on a common panel with Thomas?
As you may have noted these are seven suggestions - i.e. one more than
But it might well be we could turn at least one additional slot into a
"big" slot on Thursday evening, if demand is overwhelming ;-)
To get things moving we assume your acceptance unless we hear concerns
until - hmm - Thursday. Changes may be done later also but please note
that we want to set up a schedule now.
I hope we here more than just "nothing" or "blind acceptance". Thursday
seems tight, but it will be right if there is no answer.